Throw out all those scoring records...

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Elizabeth
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Throw out all those scoring records...

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With changes in program length and in the scoring that come into effect for this season, including the use of GOE of -5 to +5, all the established scoring records are now history.

As new ISU-sanctioned events (both junior and senior) take place this season, new records will be set (and broken) :)
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That seems such a shame - just after I was starting to get a grip on what a "good" score was in each event.....
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Wow, that's really too bad!
"At the sound of his roar, sorrows will be no more, When he bares his teeth, winter meets its death, And when he shakes his mane, we shall have spring again.” (The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis)
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A GOE of -5 to +5 is staring to look like a subjective call and allows for judges to cheat without any real detection mechanism. Judging a skating event is never easy, but creeping biases could be hidden in the method.
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fred wrote: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:21 pm A GOE of -5 to +5 is staring to look like a subjective call and allows for judges to cheat without any real detection mechanism. Judging a skating event is never easy, but creeping biases could be hidden in the method.
The application of the 2nd mark has always had subjectivity, regardless of whether it was -3 to +3 for the GOE factor or the -5 to +5. This just increases the "range" of GOE available. There are supposed to be "key points" that relate to the GOE given but I suspect there will need to be a lot of review of scoring this season - some of this done by computer comparisons between judges, as I understand it. Just within a pre-novice ladies event at the Ontario competition this weekend I saw a very wide range of GOE scoring between judges for a single skater.
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