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Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs? New minimum TES scores needed?

Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:33 pm
by Elizabeth
You might want to prepare yourself for watching skating this season in light of the changes approved at the 57th ISU Congress.

Jackie Wong (RockerSkating) explains all the changes that came about following the most recent Congress in his column here: https://www.rockerskating.com/news/2018 ... kating-now

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:53 pm
by Kevin
Wow - no side by side spins in the pairs LP??? Don't know if I agree with that. I like some of the other changes, like not repeating quads, and only having 3 jumps in the second half of the program receiving a bonus. That should help eliminate some skaters using the system (rather than their skating skills) to edge out their competition. Seems fair to me. Still....so much to wrap our heads around!

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:14 pm
by fred
Side by Side spins, in the camel position can be very dangerous. Is that why they've been scrubbed?

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:20 pm
by Elizabeth
fred wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 4:14 pm
Side by Side spins, in the camel position can be very dangerous. Is that why they've been scrubbed?
All the changes are made on the advice of the technical committee, based on representations made to them from coaches/skaters/etc.

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:20 pm
by fred
If they've followed that faithfully, then these should be good changes.

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2018 11:22 am
by kittykins
Kevin wrote:
Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:53 pm
Wow - no side by side spins in the pairs LP??? Don't know if I agree with that. I like some of the other changes, like not repeating quads, and only having 3 jumps in the second half of the program receiving a bonus. That should help eliminate some skaters using the system (rather than their skating skills) to edge out their competition. Seems fair to me. Still....so much to wrap our heads around!
I agree with reducing the bonus for jumps in the later part of the program. I didn't approve of Alina Zagitova's strategy. Not only is it "boring" to put all your jumps in the 2nd half, it's not a balanced program imho. Hopefully the best all round program wins, not just the one with all the tricks at the end. Also, I think reducing the quads to some degree is a good idea. I think it's gotten a little out of hand with too many quads at times. Again, for me at least, I prefer a more balanced program without one element taking over the program to outweigh the importance of other elements.

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:54 am
by fred
Me too Kitty. There should be more given for artistic skating, so that one can rack up points with either strategy. The marking system defines what skating will be.

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:31 pm
by Elizabeth
PJ Kwong offers some insight into the impact of the rule changes as the new season unfolds: https://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/figu ... -1.4866222

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:19 pm
by happyheini
- will be Interesting to see how the top skaters and points collectors will adapt their programs to the new rules.

Re: Changes in program length? New terminology? More GOEs?

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:08 pm
by Elizabeth
With the changes for this season, the ISU has just issued the new minimum scores required for skaters to compete at their championship events.

This chart shows the minimums for each of the senior and junior disciplines for last season and this season:
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Re: Changes in program length....

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 2:31 pm
by Elizabeth
From Phil Hersh via Twitter:
Have noticed a lot of talk about how cutting 30 seconds from the men’s FS is leaving skaters exhausted. Brian Orser told me a year ago that would happen.
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